Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at /europeanspodcast (many currencies are available). This week's Isolation Inspiration: roasted fennel and 'The Council of Egypt' by Leonardo Sciascia. We are over the moon that the animated version of our episode 'Mohamed', made with our friends at Are We Europe, has won a CIVIS prize! You can watch the beautiful animation here on YouTube. You can follow her on Twitter here and find more information about her latest book, 'A Green and Global Europe', here. Nathalie is the director of the Istituto Affari Internazionali in Rome. We're also talking about a push to ban unpaid internships across the EU, and whether or not we should be blaming Beyoncé for stubbornly high inflation in Sweden. We chat to her this week about the opportunities and challenges of the European Green Deal, as well as how to interpret the death last week of Silvio Berlusconi. In her latest book, the Italian political scientist Nathalie Tocci makes the case for cautious optimism about Europe's climate and energy policies. It's easy to feel doomed when it comes to climate change.
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